I don't need genealogy records to be virtually certain that someone great was my ancestor and that someone evil was also my ancestor. I just need 11th grade math. Please explain-did mom arrange a Bris Milah?
Very tragic story, the fouth cardinal sin, you might say. It's not funny. Sorry he lies interred, not with his People.
He was a smart man by all counts and his Jewish ancestors were his grandparents. Only one generation removed. His mother knew. I'm guessing he did too. Or suspected.
The author of the article thinks that this is tragic and sad - an example of a kind of assimilation that threatens Jewish survival and identity. One of those subtle arrangements of lives and history in which you can see His hand moving the pieces. Perhaps this role was not a random result for Fr O'Connor. Maybe all of these circumstances and mysteries and outcomes were intended. So that Jews would have a strong voice in the Church in America at an important time.
Like Joseph in Egypt. David , June 18, PM. He lost out on his chance to lead a Jewish life The Torah, G-d's revelation of His will to the Jews, emphatically repeated His desire that no Jew engage in polytheistic idolatry, Sabbath desecration, or any of the other myriad Church beliefs and practices that the Hebrew Scriptures expressly forbade.
Free will is the space G-d gives us to choose between good and evil; we each own our culpability when we choose the immoral over the good, so let's not try to pin our wrong choices on G-d and call that His "plan". That's not how free will, and it's attendant notions of reward and punishment, works. Also, be aware of one point about the historical record: throughout Joseph's trials and tribulations as a lone Jew in Egypt, even after he rose to political power he never, ever engaged in, condoned, or much less served as cleric-in-chief, of a non-Jewish religion.
There is no parallel between a Jew leading a gentile majority to diminish G-d's name and a great and holy Jew who unpopularly attributed all of his successes and salvations in public, before idolators, to the one and only G-d of Israel. As a Gentile friend of Jews, I understand as best I can the losses involved in assimilation.
But in all candor, we are never told what might have been. Mourning the hypothetical past is as fruitless as worrying about a future that hasn't happened yet. But since one of the themes here is "What if. David , June 20, PM. There's nothing inherently objectionable to your holding the views you articulated in your note; perhaps they merit a full discussion amongst your coreligionists. The way to find out is by posting them at one of your religious community's Web sites.
We obsess over nonsense seeking to find "jewish" roots when that was the very thing that put into turmoil Yashi and his son David ha Melech. Rahab was a convert remember? Onkelos also and a lot more. Millions died because they did not have the ability to hide their roots, while others who have the "DNA" to show that they have the "roots" are denied.
Others were martyred - Akiva among many others. Opportunists are now applauded and if anyone could be labeled a heretic because they actually did have the capacity to fully comprehend the truth it would be this person. Rav Haim's book - Paul and the Myth of Christianity is readily available for the "common" man to see. The Catholic church was one of the main culprits in the persecution of Jews and were parties to and were complicit in the justification of the the atrocities that have occurred to many nations, including Jew.
Did he do teshuvah when he passed? We don't understand Hashem's ways and why the Cardinal's mother converted. Maybe Hashem knew that "ba'et ha'zot", at this time, the Cardinal would bring more benefits to the Jewish people as a Cardinal than as yet another Rabbi. Anonymous , June 18, PM. We know that our omnipotent G-d didn't, doesn't and won't need anybody to institute His plans for the Jewish people.
So, it couldn't be that G-d needed Mr. O'Connor to lead a life of sin in order to benefit world Jewry. We also know that G-d gave Mr. O'Connor a set of commandments that G-d presumably wanted Mr. O'Connor to observe, along with the free will to choose whether or not he would do what G-d wanted of him. I'm thus at a loss to understand your version of hashgacha pratis, in which you seem to say G-d provides personal supervision and protection not to those who "earn" it by forging a close, mitzvah-based relationship with Him but rather with a leader of "trinitarian" paganism.
I do understand wanting to see the good in everything, but at bottom there's just nothing redeeming about a Jewish life squandered in idolatry. Based on what I have experienced directly, and heard from others, I find it really ironic that we are lamenting the assimilation of the Cardinal's mother when so many shuls are very unwelcoming to people who do not have an established connection in the community.
Yes, it is a pity that Mrs. O'Connor chose to convert, but how many people are lost to assimilation or ambivalence because they can't find a place at the table? My paternal grandmother and her sister both converted to Judaism from Catholicism around to marry their respective husbands. My grand mother had 7 children and my great aunt had 2 sons - each of those two married very religious women and produced 11 very Torah observant children.
When my Great Aunt died, she had over 50 great grandchildren- all observant Jews. Would Catholics consider this sad? If you go 25 generations back you'll have to consider your father's, mother's, mother's, father's Many of the choices will turn out to be identical people because cousins marry cousins, but that still means that the chance of missing whatever Gadol you happen to choose is very small if your family came from that part of the world.
Based on that I and most other Jews can legitimately claim to be a direct descendant of Dovid HaMelech. But I and you are probably also descendants of some random rasha, so long as he had descendants. Was this through personal research or is there an organization that can assist.
My last grandparent recently passed away, and we do not have an organized family tree and I was wondering if there was a way to go about this Cardinal O'Conner led the kind of life that would make any Jewish mother kvell. He had both compassion and ethics and his actions reflected the best of humanity. Without consciously realizing it, he had the heart of a Jew. What's not to like? The path he found is to be celebrated, not denigrated into a pathetic "If Only He We know about the Babylonian captivity; we also know about the Syrian captivity, but fwhat about the Roman captivity Replacement theology.
She appointed two people to tell lies about Naboth Christianity and Islam and had Naboth killed the Inquisition, the Pogroms, the Crusades, the Holocaust, martyrs for Allah.
These two religions have many similarities: missionary driven, use the Hebrew prophets to strengthen their belief system, glorify the after-life, have fear built into their system- fear of leaving the system etc.
The Jewish cardinal is a "lost sheep" of the House of Israel. Hopefully he found his way back to the good Way halacha, haemet ve hachaim , the Torah. It requires nothing short of Deliverance. Everything is part of G-d's big plan. Who are we to say what if? It doesn't serve a purpose.
We just need to raise our kids so they will be devoted to Hashem. May mashiach come and the miracles happen so the world will know the G-d of Israel rules the world.
In yidish we say " shepn nahes" Then as-all of almost all of Us are descendants from Say Jacob! Now does that make Us different even among Us?. The Church teaches us that every human being is imperfect and needs the mercy of God. Therefore, we wish to entrust to God, our loving Father of Mercies, this good and faithful servant, as we ask him to welcome him into the kingdom of the saints and angels.
As a sign of his profound esteem for the late Cardinal O'Connor and to demonstrate concretely his spiritual union with the Church in New York, the Holy Father sent me to represent him personally at this solemn liturgy.
I wish to reiterate the expression of his condolences along with my own to the entire archdiocesan family, to his brother, sisters and relatives, and to all those of good will who mourn his passing. Together in prayer, we beg the Lord to welcome him into paradise. Your Eminence, Cardinal Sodano, your presence as our principal celebrant is a deeply appreciated sign of our Holy Father's pastoral solicitude for this great Archdiocese of New York and a sign also of the Holy Father's and your own friendship and esteem for Cardinal O'Connor.
Thank you for your presence. Cardinal O'Connor's family has asked me, Your Eminence, to acknowledge with their heartfelt gratitude the pastoral solicitude which Archbishop Gabriel Montalvo manifested towards Cardinal O'Connor particularly during his illness.
The Bishops of the United States join me in thanking this splendid representative of the Holy Father in this country. My intent and your expectation is not that I deliver a eulogy. Cardinal O'Connor's often repeated request was that we gather at this time to pray for him. That we do, in the context of the Eucharistic sacrifice which is the source and summit of the Church's life, and was so clearly the source and summit of the life of the brother, the uncle, the friend, the priest, the bishop whom we bury this day,.
We turn to the Scripture passages just read, and we look to the book of Cardinal O'Connor's life for consolation in our sadness and for inspiration in our lives. Last Wednesday evening, when it became evident that death would come very soon, his family, his closest collaborators and friends began the Church's prayers for the dying. In the midst of those prayers, there was a moment of profound grief as each of us realized with a sudden clarity what was happening.
Just as suddenly, we realized our tears were not for him, but for ourselves. Our hearts were consoled by "that mystery hidden from ages and generations past but now revealed to his holy ones", that mystery which St Paul explained to the Colossians as the mystery of Christ in you, your hope of glory". The inspired insight of the author of Wisdom spoke of "the hope full of immortality" in the souls of the just.
He consoles us as we ponder his words in the light of their fulfilment in the risen Christ: "The souls of the just are in the hand of God Jesus, who suffered, died and rose from the dead, is our peace.
Our hope, as was the hope of Cardinal O'Connor, is to drink of the fruit of the vine again in the reign of God. The wondrous Passover meal which Jesus shared with the apostles the night before he died fulfils the deepest longings of every human heart for freedom.
And over the wine he said: "This is my blood, the blood of the covenant, to be poured out on behalf of many". He instructed us to do this in memory of him. And so we do, in this and in every Mass. The meal is forever linked to the sacrifice in which Christ offered himself for us, taking upon himself the burden of our sins and our death so that we might have forgiveness and everlasting life.
To have known Cardinal John O'Connor is to have known that what we do at this altar was at the heart of his life each day. Just a few weeks ago in a visit to his home we concelebrated Mass.
It was so clearly for him the highlight of that day. The course of his illness had made it impossible for him to read. Already his ability to carry on a sustained conversation was impaired. With strength and conviction he was nonetheless able to recite from memory the Eucharistic Prayer.
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